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Wednesday, March 15, 2017

Another step forward

The media is spinning it as a loss, but the fact is that Geert Wilders and the Party of Freedom outperformed the polls in the Dutch elections:
Right-wing Dutch MP Geert Wilders has hailed his party's General Election results despite exit polls saying that Holland's liberal Prime Minister Mark Rutte will cling to power.

Rutte's VVD party currently has 31 seats in 150-place parliament, according to the polls, while Wilders' PVV party is joint second, alongside two other parties, with 19 seats.

The polls represent a decrease of 10 seats for Rutte and an increase of seven seats for Wilders. Rutte - who has vowed never to work alongside Wilders - will now be forced to form a coalition government, which is predicted to take him months.
Earlier today: The survey showed that the PVV had dropped to just 16 seats in the 150-member parliament but VVD is now on track to get 29 seats.  

It's a good result. It's not a great result, but it is another step in the right direction.

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50 Comments:

Anonymous Viiidad March 15, 2017 6:56 PM  

I was hoping for a Wilderslide, but this is still good. Nice to see.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Hair March 15, 2017 6:59 PM  

@1. Me too. Nonetheless, Wilders can bide his time and earn allies for the next go round.

Anonymous El Rojo March 15, 2017 7:02 PM  

While good - the result was somewhat expected...

Once I started reading about how some polling locations in the cities were hitting 100% turn out, and how others somehow ran out of ballots, the writing on the wall was easy to see.

Blogger Xardes March 15, 2017 7:05 PM  

We are still counting votes
Link: http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/verkiezingen

Blogger Azimus March 15, 2017 7:10 PM  

The key for the Dutch right will be to reach the young, particularly in the Achterhoek. The old have realized how they sinned but now they are dying off - they need replaceming and that means young people making babyDutch.

Anonymous a_peraspera March 15, 2017 7:10 PM  

Federal judge, son of Asian immigrants and Obama appointee, declares Trump's new refugee ban shut down.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/lawyers-face-off-on-trump-travel-ban-in-md-court-wednesday-morning/2017/03/14/b2d24636-090c-11e7-93dc-00f9bdd74ed1_story.html?pushid=breaking-news_1489621737&tid=notifi_push_breaking-news&utm_term=.ecb6544af742

Blogger Lazarus March 15, 2017 7:16 PM  

In a parliamentary system with that many parties, Wilders showing is a definite win, and the Muzzies aren't going away or playing nice anytime soon. The Eurocrats can spin it all they want, but they know it is a win as well.

Blogger Salt March 15, 2017 7:24 PM  

I expect Le Pen to be the one to blow up the EU.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 15, 2017 7:28 PM  

How many districts/precincts whatever reporting in?

Blogger Derrick Bonsell March 15, 2017 7:31 PM  

Imagine going from a lead a few months ago to finishing a distant second in a sea of parties similar to the winning party being called a victory.

Hilarious.

Wilders got smoked.

Blogger Happy LP9 March 15, 2017 7:31 PM  

Media lying again, all spin, no truth, Geert won by simply running.

His time is next time, the people will be let down by this winner so Wilders will win next time. Or maybe Geert can work with him and stop the immigration problems.

Blogger Happy LP9 March 15, 2017 7:34 PM  

Le Pen and a unknown dark horse or an unknown person will appear and also win as the 16 pointer generation is here.

We already saw the signs stating: "Shariah for France."

Blogger Dr Caveman March 15, 2017 7:40 PM  

Even if he got 40 seats, chances were slim for him to form a ruling coalition.
For now Wilders'strength is stretching the Overton Window and influencing other parties to the right, simply due to his presence.
Without Wilders, the government would have caved to the Turks a few days ago. He is our backbone

Blogger Wolfman at Large March 15, 2017 7:40 PM  

Sadly we will have to wait in order to see if #OverWinning can be achieved outside of theoretical meme-physics.

Anonymous Mark Auld March 15, 2017 7:41 PM  

The Turks will riot and red pill the majority of Dutch the next time...on to France!

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd March 15, 2017 7:43 PM  

a_peraspera wrote:Federal judge, son of Asian immigrants and Obama appointee, declares Trump's new refugee ban shut down.

I wonder who is walking into whose trap? Trump has been pretty good at handing out rope with pretty, pre-tied nooses.

Blogger Lazarus March 15, 2017 7:46 PM  

Derrick Bonsell wrote:Imagine going from a lead a few months ago to finishing a distant second in a sea of parties similar to the winning party being called a victory.
.


You are being disingenuous or ignorant. In a parliamentary system, when one forces the winning party to make public statements supporting your position, it IS a win. That is exactly what Rutte did:

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/01/24/act-normal-or-go-away-dutch-pm-tells-immigrants?cid=inbody:geert-wilders-in-narrow-lead-as-netherlands-gears-up-for-elections

Centre-right Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte has sent a message to immigrants weeks ahead of national elections: “Act normal or go away".

“If you so fundamentally reject our country, I prefer you leave.”


The difference is it is just lip service. But when it is seen as a fraud, the support will collapse.

Anonymous a_peraspera March 15, 2017 7:47 PM  

Yeah, not sure what the reasoning is this time besides "muh feelz."

They can't really say it's a "muslim ban" (although that would be legal), because Saudis, Pakis and others are still allowed in (unfortunately).

Anonymous Roundtine March 15, 2017 7:51 PM  

In their glee to claim a loss for populism, the media also missed the destruction of the left. This wasn't a setback for the overall trend, it was less complete than the victories in Poland and Hungary.

Anonymous BBGKB March 15, 2017 7:57 PM  

Once I started reading about how some polling locations in the cities were hitting 100% turn out,

Bring out your dead

I expect Le Pen to be the one to blow up the EU.

TPTB fear Bannon will http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/13/politico-european-elites-fear-steve-bannon-destroy-eu/

Trump has been pretty good at handing out rope with pretty, pre-tied nooses

TRUMP figured out the best bait to get them on the hook. Barry said he thought it was Biden's desk http://i.imgur.com/KoYHAUF.png

Anonymous Iron Spartan March 15, 2017 8:02 PM  

I might be overly paranoid, but the reports of 100% turnout and needing to rush more ballots in screams to me "box stuffing."

Blogger Lazarus March 15, 2017 8:17 PM  

Iron Spartan wrote:I might be overly paranoid, but the reports of 100% turnout and needing to rush more ballots in screams to me "box stuffing."

It is an existential crisis for the elites. Of course there will be "irregularities".

Blogger Dirtnapninja March 15, 2017 8:36 PM  

We are insurgents. that means we will seem to lose more often than we win. But remember, as long as progress tilts rightwards, we are winning. Any progress rightwards is winning. And the European right made progress here.

Blogger Lazarus March 15, 2017 8:36 PM  

O.T., but what the hell is this I found by accident?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsIykHP_D_U

its like StickMan X 40

Anonymous Rfvujm March 15, 2017 8:38 PM  

Of course the American media is spinning this as some major defeat of Wilders. They're depending on American ignorance of Dutch government systems, so that they can continue slandering anything showing the remotest hint of nationalism.

Anonymous Garrulus March 15, 2017 8:57 PM  

FvD intellectual alt light/right populist +2 or 3 seats out of nowhere.

Christian + classical liberal coalition possible ( VVD CDA D66 CU SGP)

On the whole there has been a move to the (cuck) right. And formation will be difficult because they need seats in the senate too.

Blogger Unknown March 15, 2017 9:01 PM  

Rfvujm wrote:Of course the American media is spinning this as some major defeat of Wilders. They're depending on American ignorance of Dutch government systems, so that they can continue slandering anything showing the remotest hint of nationalism.

They will go further and proclaim this result as a defeat for Trumpism in the 'heart' of Europe.

Anonymous Ages March 15, 2017 9:14 PM  

At this hour, Wilders' PVV is in second place by percent.

http://nos.nl/artikel/2163332-tk17-steeds-meer-uitslagen-komen-binnen.html

To be sure, they won't be allowed into the governing coalition, but this is hardly the massive loss that the MSM (including Drudge) are trumpeting.

Anonymous Garrulus March 15, 2017 9:21 PM  

27. Ages
No its not a loss, overall the roughly weighted result is a move to the right. (be it cuck right)

Wilders has won seats, just not as many as polled earlier. FvD also got 2 or 3 seats.

Blogger Lazarus March 15, 2017 10:36 PM  

This is the gay that is going to put the muzzies in their place now in Dutchtown


http://f.a7.org/pictures/760/760498.jpg

Blogger Basil Makedon March 15, 2017 11:57 PM  

So looks like Wilders' PVV received ~20 seats, whereas the "winners" of the VVD received ~32 seats. With a 150 seats, you obviously need to construct a coalition of 76 to make things happen.

So, the VVD will need both the 3rd and the 4th and maybe one other party to join the coalition. Rutte has pledged never to work with PVV so, all of the power in this insane system is going to go to some party that only received ~6 seats and has a platform based on gay animal direct democracy or some such.

Closer and closer. The EUtopians are putting on a brave face, but panic has got to be setting in. Everyone will be watching the polling for LePen.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club March 16, 2017 1:08 AM  

While the one-appearing-to-be-two party system we have in the US has a plethora of problems, the parliamentary system, where some yahoo with a single issue grievance can become a power broker, is hardly superior.

Of course, just look at the non-European nations that have adopted it to see just how dysfunctional a parliamentary government can be.

Anonymous Tanjil Bren March 16, 2017 1:40 AM  

"This is the gay that is going to put the muzzies in their place now in Dutchtown."

At first I thought that was a typo (seriously).

Then I saw the picture...

Anonymous Tanjil Bren March 16, 2017 2:12 AM  

"It's a good result. It's not a great result, but it is another step in the right direction."

What on Earth is it going to take for these people to wake the hell up?

Blogger Pteronarcyd March 16, 2017 2:26 AM  

I find it hard to see 12.7% representation in Parliament as a winof much significance. I assume most of the parties are Leftist, so a Leftist coalition will be forthcoming that will oversee the continued cultural decline of Holland.

Anonymous Rien March 16, 2017 3:24 AM  

"Outperforming the polls" is a bit of a stretch imo. There was indeed a poll shortly before the election, be there were many polls in the months leading up to the election in which he polled significantly above the current results.

Still a growth from 15 seats to 20 is a win.

However we also need to take into account that 25% swings in the Netherlands are common. Since this move has historical roots though, I still consider this a big win for the PVV. It is just that the expectations were higher.

The big looser is the government. They went from 80 seats to 42. The loss is mainly concentrated in the "left wing" of the government which went from 38 to 9 seats.

Future: Given that we now need a 4 party coalition to form a majority government, it is highly likely that the new government will not make it through the next (4 year) turn. Coalitions larger than 3 parties are often unstable.

And given the current socio-economic environment it seems likely that the PVV will gain further in popularity. I think that chances are high that in the next elections they will indeed become the biggest party.

Blogger Wanderer March 16, 2017 3:58 AM  

How could the Dutch vote in such a cucked way when all week before the election you had turks rioting and waving their stupid muslim flag around? Sad.

Anonymous Flying Dutchman March 16, 2017 4:56 AM  

It is because of this, actually. A lot of right-wing leaning people, previously inclined to vote for Wilders, were fooled by the way PM Rutte handled this situation. Of course, he will now resort straight back to his natural, suck-up persona.

Blogger Lazarus March 16, 2017 5:08 AM  

Tanjil Bren wrote:At first I thought that was a typo (seriously).



The original WAS guy, until I contemplated that picture.

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Anonymous Aleatoric Persiflage March 16, 2017 6:43 AM  

If the ruling party refuses to even work with Wilders or form a coalition with him, win or lose, why should Wilders even respect the results?

Blogger Sir Sweetstick March 16, 2017 8:50 AM  

none of the big eu countries will ever vote themselves out of the muslim mess they have created. you cannot imagine how many of the citizens there are truly fukk headed on every important issue of the day.

Blogger Raggededge March 16, 2017 10:02 AM  

The Dutch actual have an Animal Party (Partij voor de Dieren) that looks like it took 2 seats. These people are insane. It was a somewhat disappointing showing for Wilders, but he isn't going away and neither is the immigrant problem. He'll either be Prime Minister in 4 years or assassinated.

Blogger Gaius Octavius March 16, 2017 10:54 AM  

It was a disappointing result.Not the massive defeat the MSM is claiming, but still a bad night. Lots of reasons for this "defeat". Wilders is not as charismatic as Trump. I always felt he lacked empathy with the people. The dutch were also fooled by that theater play with the Turkish and thought the cuck will be hard on the islamic invasion. He wont. He'll back down, cucks always do. Also the way Wilders was not at early debates, delivered an hilariously stupid, one page program and showed a general lack of ideas except opposition to islam also hurt him badly. He also showed himself far too extremist, failing to capture some more center right electorate and you cant win without them. The prohibition of the quran was especially problematic. When you start prohibiting books, the fascist labels start. Shame, because this was the netherlands chance. They'll have a weak government, unstable and their invasion will go on as planned. But it was their choice.

Blogger Jonathan Wales March 16, 2017 11:32 AM  

From the mouth of the Turkish Prime Minister: 'Holy wars will soon begin in Europe'.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/780050/Holy-war-Turkey-EU-Netherlands-Rutte-Erdogan-Cavusoglu-Juncker

Blogger Resident Moron™ March 16, 2017 1:13 PM  

According to the PM, the Dutch people said no to "the wrong kind" of populism.

For those still catching up, what this actually means is that Holland is not yet in the state that Sweden or France are in.

But it is only a matter of time.

Anonymous LemonGrass March 16, 2017 2:47 PM  

I had hoped the PVV and the FvD would win more seats, this is a bit disappointing, the polls suddenly started favoring Rutte. The problem is that people are afraid to express open support for the PVV and the FvD so we cannot now if major fraud is likely.

However the latest row with Turkey has shown how clueless and hypocritical most Dutch are, in the US not only do you have Mexicans proudly waving the Mexican flag, and voting in the interest of Mexico. But a lot of them refuse to speak English, some of them even beat up Trump supporters under the eye of the police, and millions of them are entering your country illegally. Oh and it's Mexico that is upset about your building a wall so their citizens cannot illegally enter your country. And lets not forget the Democrat are allowing them to vote illegally.

Yet my countrymen and my friends still wildly despise Trump. And I go to a Technical University, we are not talking about dummies here.

If you look at the actual policies of the winning party, you will see they have taken on a much tougher stance on immigration.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 16, 2017 3:34 PM  

LemonGrass wrote:If you look at the actual policies of the winning party, you will see they have taken on a much tougher stance on immigration.
Which "tougher stance" they will abandon immediately. You guys really are cucked. You believed a politician.

Anonymous Mike Rock March 16, 2017 4:03 PM  

Just got a note back from a friend in Holland. His email did not work last night for some reason. His reply to my Comms check:
Mike your Email works fine.

Geert ended on the second place but realy dit make an great victory.
He started small and now he became the second most biggest party of the 28 party’s

He is very happy and he told the second time we wil the biggest.

It is also not sure how the colition with Rutte roles out.
Rutte can not rule alone and have to find more party’s.

Going to bed now.

Keep in touch,

Chris

Anonymous Mike Rock March 16, 2017 4:21 PM  

Krisztina Wilders was a fox back in the day. Hungarian by birth, former diplomat. Didn't age well.

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